Jewell on the job in 2014 at the newly created Organ Mountains-Desert Peaks National Monument in New Mexico.
Jewell on the job in 2014 at the newly created Organ Mountains-Desert Peaks National Monument in New Mexico. (Photo: Benjamin Rasmussen)

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“If you’re not at the table, you’re on the menu,” says Sally Jewell. Hopeful, thoughtful, slightly ticked-off, and surprisingly emotional, the outgoing Secretary of the Interior talks with Outside editor Chris Keyes about the presidential election and what it means for the future of public lands. Can environmental protections be dismantled? Will they? Are we going to see an increase in Malheur Wildlife Refuge-style occupations? America’s chief steward reflects on leaving her post and what we can expect from the next administration.

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Outside’s longstanding literary storytelling tradition comes to life in audio with features that will both entertain and inform listeners. We launched in March 2016 with our first series, Science of Survival, and have since expanded our show to offer a range of story formats, including reports from our correspondents in the field and interviews with the biggest figures in sports, adventure, and the outdoors.